Mythology, The Thunderer and THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR

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AngelAndTheWarrior-The-CoverIf you’ve been following my recent writings, you might be aware that soon, within a week or so, THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR will be released in ebooks.   Because this book is the first in a series that is set not only within historical times, but within the framework of Native American Mythology, I thought it might be fun to talk about some of the legends of Native America.  And in particular, the legend of the Thunderer.

The Thunder Being (or sometimes referred to as the Thunder Bird or Thunder God or Thunderer) is one of the main characters in this latest series of my books.   His anger has been stirred by acts of violence against himself and his children by a clan that is part of the Blackfoot Indians – The Lost Clan as they are called in these stories.  Interestingly, the Thunder thCACKC4HUBeing plays a dominant role in most Native American tribes — perhaps because when one is living so closely to nature, the Thunderer, who can produce so much damage, would be a subject of much legend.  In this series of books, the Lost Clan has been  relegated into the “mist” by the Creator, who intervened on the people’s behalf when the Thunderer was bent on destroying every single member of the clan.  Imprisoned within that mist, each band within the Lost Clan is given a chance within every new generation to choose a boy to go out into the real world, who is charged with the task of undoing the curse, thus freeing his people from what would be an everlasting punishment (they are neither real, nor dead).  But, not only must the boy be brave and intelligent (there are puzzles to solve within every book), he must also show kindness to the enemy.

th[2]Let’s have a look at the Thunderer and some of the different lore about this being.  In Blackfeet lore, the Thunderer often steals women.  He also will often take the image of a very large bird — his wings creating the thunder and his eyes shooting out the lightning.  In Lakota lore, if one dreams about the Thunder god, he becomes a backwards person.   He must do everything backwards.  He washes in sand, become dirty in water, walks backwards, says exactly what he doesn’t mean, etc., etc.  The dream is so powerful that it is thought that if one fails to do these things, he courts certain death.  In THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR, the hero is desperate because he only has until his 30th birthday to undo the curse, and the hero of the story is 29, with only a few months left to accomplish what he must.  Relying on visions and dreams, he is drawn toward a woman with hair the color of starlight.  But he regards her and his growing feelings toward her, as little more than a distraction.

thumbnail[5]There is also a legend of the Thunder Being in the Iroquois Nation.  In this legend, a young woman becomes the bride of the Thunderer and through him saves her village from a huge snake that burrows under her village, thus endangering the lives of everyone in her village.  There is still another legend about the Thunder which you can watch on the Movie called Dream Makers — well, I think that’s the name of the movie (if I am wrong about that name, please do correct me).   In this legend, which is also an Eastern Indian tribe, a young woman marries the Thunderer and goes to live with him in the above world, only to be returned to her own world when she becomes pregnant with his child.

stortell[1]What is very, very interesting to me is how many and how vast are the lores of Native America.  Though we often hear or even study the ancient lore of the Greeks, seldom do we read much our own lore — the mythology that belongs intimately with this land we call America — which by the way, to the Native Americans on the East Coast, America is known as Turtle Island.   Fascinatingly, there is a story for almost every creature on this continent, from the crow to the sparrow to the coyote (the trickster), the wolf and bear.  There are legends about the stars, the Big Dipper hosts legends about the Great Bear (Iroquois) and the Seven Brothers and their sister (Cheyenne and Blackfeet).  There are still other stories about the Morning Star and the Evening Star and marriages between the Gods and mortals.

july06-yukon-photo-4.jpgSo what do you think?  What do you think about the myths (do you think they are stories about a past time or do you think, like many scientists of our day, that they are the works of imagination).  Or are they stories to teach us more about ourselves and the world in which we live?

AngelAndTheWarrior-The-CoverDon’t forget that soon, April 1, 2014, THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR goes on sale.  Right now, you can pick up the book in a pre-sale promotion — practically for a song.  Here’s the link:

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KAREN KAY aka GEN BAILEY is the multi-published author of American Indian Historical Romances. She has written for such prestigious publishers as AVON/HarperCollins, Berkley/Penguin/Putnam and Samhain Publishing. KAREN KAY’S great grandmother was Choctaw Indian and Kay is honored to be able to write about the American Indian Culture.
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40 thoughts on “Mythology, The Thunderer and THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR”

  1. Well, since I’ve been reading Fossil Legends of the First Americans by Adrienne Mayor lately, I think some of the stories Native Americans have been telling for ages have been their way to explain all those fossils of dinosaurs or extinct giant buffaloes and other animals. Frankly, some of the stories I’ve read from the book so far are more sensible than some of the stories that the Romans and Greeks came up with about the fossils they found. And yet, paleontologists like George Gaylord Simpson rejected the notion of Native American fossil finds and the legends surrounding them as lacking scientific value.

  2. As always, Kay, such great information on our first nations! I think myths grew to explain the explainable, to put is in imagery and language the people could understand. I love the Thunder Bird and can really hear his flapping wings making thunder sounds. Best of luck with the upcoming release!

  3. I love learning about Myths and Legends… it does make you wonder if there is any truth to them… thanks for sharing another great post. 🙂

  4. I love hearing about legends and Mythis! Thanks for the wonderful Giveway I would love a chance to win one of your books!

  5. I love reading about Myths and Legends, whether they are true or not, I find them fascinating. Thanks for the giveaway.

  6. I love Indian lore and love it even more when it’s used in a story like this. I’ve heard of the thunder God but never knew the legend behind it. Thanks for sharing and I can’t wait to read your book.

  7. I love learning about myths and legends. Thank you for a great post. I also can’t wait for the Angel and The Warrior to be released. It would be an even bigger bonus if I won the copy.

  8. Great post Kay! I have always been interested in old legends. Makes you wonder how much truth is to them.

  9. Thanks for such a fun post!! I love myths and legends 🙂 But I do believe that they are more of a social/moral tool than factual.

  10. It is so interesting to read of these legends! I am fascinated by the different lore among the different tribes. Thank you so much for sharing and congratulations on the upcoming release of THE ANGEL AND THE WARRIOR!!

  11. Indian myths are very interesting and I generally think they are stories to share past history and lessons to pass on.
    Your new series sounds like it will have a lot of interesting twists. Love puzzles in stories. 🙂 Best wishes on your upcoming release!

  12. I have several books of Native American myths and legends. In addition, I have several children’s books based on some of the legends. As with legends in most cultures, I think they were an attempt of a people to make sense of and explain parts of their world and history. Not too different from any early or “primitive” culture. They had to take their cues from the natural world and put their own interpretations of them. It makes for some lovely stories.
    As with much folklore, the storytellers never missed an opportunity to turn the story into a lesson on life and behavior. Everyone has an origins story, their trickster (usually the coyote or raven), and characters which fill similar roles. It is interesting comparing them.

    Thanks for an interesting post. If you haven’t already seen it, find THE ROUGH-FACED GIRL by Rafe Martin and illustrated by David Shannon. It is a lovely book. A Native American version of the Cinderella story set in an Algonquin village. Another author who has many children’s books based on native american lore is
    Joseph Bruchac, an Abinaki storyteller, poet, author and Native American culture scholar.

  13. Hi Minna!

    Amazing the information you’re studying. Found your comment extremely interesting. I’ve always found it interesting that the stone arrowheads are not Native Amercan, for instance. The Indians, themselves, didn’t know where they came from — they used bone mostly.

    Just interesting.

  14. Hi Janine!

    I so agree. And sometimes, I tend to think they are based, perhaps, on some truth. But whether that’s true or not, I don’t really care. I love them all the same.

  15. Hi Tanya!

    Yes, I agree with you, too, although I still like to think that they are based, somewhat, on a bit of truth. The legend, for instance of the Morning Star coming to earth — and the explanation for what we now call the “crop circles.” Interesting. Interesting…

  16. Hi Colleen!

    Yes, I do agree. I do think there is some sort of basis of truth in them — and alot of imagination — but I do think for the most part that there is some grain of truth. : )

  17. Hi Sharla Rae!

    Thank you so much for your post. Like you, I love to read these legends. I just bought a book about how strawberries came into the world for my granddaughter. It’s one of her favorite books.

  18. Hi Erinf1!

    You know, many do believe this — and reading some of the legends, I can understand why. And I think some of them grew up to teach us different morals and such — I still think there’s something to them, however. But over time, of course … well, we’ve probably all sat in those circles where a piece of gossip was put in place and the result of that…

  19. Hi Patricia!

    I always love your posts. It opens up whole new aspects of things that I hadn’t always thought about.

    I’m not familiar with that story or the author THE ROUGH-FACED GIRL by Rafe Martin — but I’m going to look it up. Reminds me a little of the legend of Scar-face. One of my favorite legends when I was young.

    I’m familiar with the work of Joseph Bruchac. I, too, have several of his books and have read and enjoyed each one — even though they are written for children, I have loved them.

    Thanks so much, Patricia. : )

  20. I believe that legends and myths were created to explain how our earth, people and animals became living creations. Legends and myths were told to explain why there was thunder and lightening and how gods controlled them. Indians found ways to pass things down just like the greeks, the Egyptian and even ancient man did with cave cravings. It was a mystery but also a fascination for them as well as things are for us today!

    Thanks for being here!

  21. Hi Karen, I for sure believe and trust that all are teachings for each of us to learn as we walk the many paths of this life. I am excited to get your new book. Blessings


  22. Thanks for this interesting post Karen. I love anything about Indians. I would love to get your book. When will it come out in Paperbacks. I know I would love all of your books. Maxie mac262(at)me(dot)com

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